Fees for Complications

Ashley1234 · 10-27-2009, 05:31 PM

Hi Everyone,

I need some feedback. Four weeks ago I found out I had CC. PS said to try agressive massage and if it was not better by Feb he would have to do surgery. I did just what he said and today went in for a follow up. He said the CC was much better but would need to lower the pocket on my left side and on his way out the door he told me he would not charge me surgon fees but I would have to pay for anesthesia which would be $1200. There are no OR fees because he has a surgical suite in his office. I have had problems with the left side from the day after surgery. It was severly bruised and much more pain than the right. I am really upset that I am going to have to pay all of that money again. I thought a pocket revision was from the pocket not being low enough or wide enough to begin with. $1200 might not be a big deal to my PS but it is a ton of money to me. Anyone else had to pay for things like this? Is this normal? TIA

crazy4boobs637 · 10-27-2009, 05:34 PM

oh, wow hun.
Im really sorry!!!

****hugs****
I dont know what your going through..
but I hope everything gets better for you..

and Im sure you will figure something out!!!
and yes that is a lot of money to come up with.
maybe you should try and see if you could lower the fee???
IDK.

****hugs again***

jamsmak04 · 10-27-2009, 05:51 PM

From what I have heard on here its totally normal. I know health care here in alberta covers stuff like that. I think thats how most surgeons do things.

mai52takn · 10-27-2009, 05:52 PM

I am so very sorry to hear this!

I have heard about this from several women on this board, that at the least they had to pay for anesthesiologist. Did you voice your concerns with your PS regarding the funds?

Good luck! I hope it works out.

rae_rae21 · 10-27-2009, 05:54 PM

Well unfortunately, it IS pretty much the norm for things like this. Some PS will do a revision (due to complications) for no cost, but most charge for anesthesia and/or facility fees or even full-price.

Maybe you can discuss this with him and see if he will come down on the price or work some type of arrangement out. Sorry you're dealing with this, complicationis suck!

JayJgirls · 10-27-2009, 06:18 PM

yes I agree my ps did my bottoming out revision for the OR fee and not his fee... But it did not hold I don't know what I will be charges this time around but the additional expense is quite the bummer as I am finding out the hard way..

Iris · 10-28-2009, 11:23 AM

I also need a revision. I bottomed out at 3 1/2 months although my surgeon would not confirm it until 5 months. At 3 1/2 months he told me I had "mirror confusion" Mirror confusion is you sitting topless on an examining table looking down at your breasts trying to explian what is wrong with them when you really cannot see them....and since the problem is new you end up pointing to the wrong one because when you look at them in the mirror they are opposite. Anyway he said if anything the other one is off and left the room.
At five months I brought pictures and a mirror so I had no confusion!And he admitted the problem. My contract said if he deterimined a revision was needed I had to pay for hospital and annesthesia but when I got his price it included $750 for "booking and scheduling" so my total cost was about $1850 and since I did not want to reuse my implant (for risk of infection and it voids the warrenty) I had to add another $500/...so the total was $2450.
Not much I can do, I signed the papers. But it really sucks!

Brun3tt3Grl · 10-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsmak04

From what I have heard on here its totally normal. I know health care here in alberta covers stuff like that. I think thats how most surgeons do things.

Can you tell me where I can find out exactly what alberta health care covers as far as complications?

AmazonBlonde · 10-28-2009, 04:56 PM

I have to go in for a pocket revision and have to pay for the anesthesia. The DR is waiving his fee and a surgical centre fee. So the fee comes to something like $700 for me. If I want to trade out my implants at that time I pay for new implants at an additional cost of $1200. HTH

jice · 10-29-2009, 06:46 PM

The price for anesthesia seems a little high to me! But it is pretty standard procedure to charge for that on revisions.

goldengurls · 10-29-2009, 06:56 PM

I had two revisions done and I paid not one penny for anything........

30yrTuneup · 11-15-2009, 09:00 AM

Where do you live? I think that is WAY high for anesthesia. What amount of time are we talking about? That is more than I paid for anes. for my whole surgery. If you live anywhere near FLA or have good cheap flights you should check out Aspen after Surgery dot com. They do a specialize ultrasound treatment for CC that is non surgical! I bet it would be cheaper even if you have to travel there and NO more surgery. It worked for me. go to their website and see what you think. Good luck!!

Demitra · 11-15-2009, 12:20 PM

One of the questions I asked at my consult was what is covered in the event of a complication.

My surgeon said everything.. Very nonchalant.. We will take care of you ..is what he said.
I learned later that MSP ( medical services plan) covers the cost of complications.
I went back in the day of my surgery for the hematoma- Got put out again etc etc.. And I paid not one cent.

Horizon41 · 11-15-2009, 02:19 PM

all ps are different I have to have a pocket revision in Jan and I am paying surgery center fees.

amermaidseyez · 11-15-2009, 02:34 PM

When i booked my surgery, one of the papers i signed was a "contract" for what the fee would be if additional surgery is needed within the first year after my original surgery. It is a $1200. fee for anest. only

Genie · 11-15-2009, 03:18 PM

Yes I think this is normal. I'm having a re-do in Jan & it's gonna cost $2500. Dr doesn't charge a fee is another surgery is done within a year but he does charge for anesthesia, surgical supplies, and the implants. Anesthesia is an expensive thing. Would you ever consider having twilight anesthesia instead of general? I think it's a good bit cheaper.

bb8 · 11-15-2009, 04:16 PM

Based on everyone's reply I guess it is normal to pay for the surgery center fees but that doesn't mean you can't approach him and ask if you could work out a deal. The older I get the more I realize it doesn't hurt to ask. All he can say is sorry, no. Think through what you want to say beforehand. Don't get his defenses up but ask him why the pocket revision is needed. Tell him you're concerned about the $1200 fee and wanted to know if he can help you out in any way. I need to talk to my surgeon about something I'm not happy about and am bringing my husband for next week's follow up. He's a business man and I know it will help to have him there. Is there anyone you could bring with you?

beckybee · 11-15-2009, 06:47 PM

I know it sounds like a lot to you, and it is a lot for me also, but I think it's considered decent and fair practice by a PS to waive their fees only for a redo. Technically, they don't have to unless it's their error and even then they can try to get away with saying it's not. Based on my experience, this is a good case scenario (sounds ridiculous I know).

I agree with the part about asking for a reduction. You could also ask him to finance it no/low interest while you pay it back. It's been done. Unfortunately, I couldn't even get my complications diagnosed and ended up going with a second PS to get them diagnosed and fixed. Now, that was more money!!

smallboobs · 11-18-2009, 12:45 PM

I paid 1300 for my revision (anest . & for the OR) the only time I didn't pay was for my emergency hematoma, so it's normal that you have to pay for revisions unfortenatly. But you should def ask if there is any way that he could reduce the price.

10-27-2009, 05:31 PM	#1
Ashley1234 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 78 Thanks: 6 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts	Fees for Complications Hi Everyone, I need some feedback. Four weeks ago I found out I had CC. PS said to try agressive massage and if it was not better by Feb he would have to do surgery. I did just what he said and today went in for a follow up. He said the CC was much better but would need to lower the pocket on my left side and on his way out the door he told me he would not charge me surgon fees but I would have to pay for anesthesia which would be $1200. There are no OR fees because he has a surgical suite in his office. I have had problems with the left side from the day after surgery. It was severly bruised and much more pain than the right. I am really upset that I am going to have to pay all of that money again. I thought a pocket revision was from the pocket not being low enough or wide enough to begin with. $1200 might not be a big deal to my PS but it is a ton of money to me. Anyone else had to pay for things like this? Is this normal? TIA

10-27-2009, 05:34 PM	#2
crazy4boobs637 Scheduled my Date! April 29th Here I come!!! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: silverdale, washington Posts: 281 Thanks: 34 Thanked 116 Times in 103 Posts	oh, wow hun. Im really sorry!!! **hugs I dont know what your going through.. but I hope everything gets better for you.. and Im sure you will figure something out!!! and yes that is a lot of money to come up with. maybe you should try and see if you could lower the fee??? IDK. hugs again* __________________ 18 yrs old. 5'3. 130lbs. Pre-breast augmentation:Small Flat Deflated B. Breast-fed for one Year. Mommy of 1 princess. Wife to a Marine Up Coming Breast Augmentation April 29th 2010 Dr.William Aiello From Dr.90210 Mod+ or HP. Looking at 800cc's Right Now.

10-27-2009, 05:52 PM	#4
mai52takn ~Weapons of Mass Distraction~ Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 589 Thanks: 123 Thanked 254 Times in 210 Posts	I am so very sorry to hear this! I have heard about this from several women on this board, that at the least they had to pay for anesthesiologist. Did you voice your concerns with your PS regarding the funds? Good luck! I hope it works out. __________________ Will only accept friend requests from active users, with pics & posts.

10-28-2009, 11:23 AM	#7
Iris Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 523 Thanked 528 Times in 434 Posts	I also need a revision. I bottomed out at 3 1/2 months although my surgeon would not confirm it until 5 months. At 3 1/2 months he told me I had "mirror confusion" Mirror confusion is you sitting topless on an examining table looking down at your breasts trying to explian what is wrong with them when you really cannot see them....and since the problem is new you end up pointing to the wrong one because when you look at them in the mirror they are opposite. Anyway he said if anything the other one is off and left the room. At five months I brought pictures and a mirror so I had no confusion!And he admitted the problem. My contract said if he deterimined a revision was needed I had to pay for hospital and annesthesia but when I got his price it included $750 for "booking and scheduling" so my total cost was about $1850 and since I did not want to reuse my implant (for risk of infection and it voids the warrenty) I had to add another $500/...so the total was $2450. Not much I can do, I signed the papers. But it really sucks! __________________ 5'6" 130lbs PreBA: 34A/smallB PostBA: 34D 285cc~Saline~Natrelle~Mods~Unders ~Periareolar Lift~ If you send a FR please send a message so I get to know you. Also have some posts and pics Thanks

10-28-2009, 04:56 PM	#9
AmazonBlonde Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 183 Thanks: 43 Thanked 35 Times in 33 Posts	My fee I have to go in for a pocket revision and have to pay for the anesthesia. The DR is waiving his fee and a surgical centre fee. So the fee comes to something like $700 for me. If I want to trade out my implants at that time I pay for new implants at an additional cost of $1200. HTH

10-27-2009, 05:51 PM	#3
jamsmak04 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,297 Thanks: 312 Thanked 440 Times in 394 Posts	From what I have heard on here its totally normal. I know health care here in alberta covers stuff like that. I think thats how most surgeons do things.

10-27-2009, 05:54 PM	#5
rae_rae21 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 80 Thanks: 72 Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts	Well unfortunately, it IS pretty much the norm for things like this. Some PS will do a revision (due to complications) for no cost, but most charge for anesthesia and/or facility fees or even full-price. Maybe you can discuss this with him and see if he will come down on the price or work some type of arrangement out. Sorry you're dealing with this, complicationis suck!

10-27-2009, 06:18 PM	#6
JayJgirls Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,201 Thanks: 815 Thanked 463 Times in 412 Posts	yes I agree my ps did my bottoming out revision for the OR fee and not his fee... But it did not hold I don't know what I will be charges this time around but the additional expense is quite the bummer as I am finding out the hard way..

10-29-2009, 06:46 PM	#10
jice Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hollywood, Florida Posts: 298 Thanks: 17 Thanked 99 Times in 91 Posts	The price for anesthesia seems a little high to me! But it is pretty standard procedure to charge for that on revisions. __________________ Height: 5'8" Weight: 130 RC: 33" PreBA: 36AA 1st breast augmentation: 1989, 36full B, 350CC Revision breast augmentation (because of double bubble in left breast): 1991, 36full C, 550CC 2nd Revision breast augmentation (because of rupture in both and still double bubble in left!) June 8, 2009, 36D/DD 750CC

10-29-2009, 06:56 PM	#11
goldengurls Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 130 Thanks: 62 Thanked 71 Times in 42 Posts	I had two revisions done and I paid not one penny for anything........ __________________ Saggy 36 DD 2-18-09 540 550 HP Saline 34 DDD Full Anchor Breast Lift Augmentation Grade III ptosis, areola reduction 06-10-09 Bottomed out Benelli lift, internal bra 09-09-09 Bottomed out righty only. Lefty held...... Benelli lift, internal bra When sending a friends request, you must also have pics. :)

11-15-2009, 09:00 AM	#12
30yrTuneup Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 62 Thanks: 3 Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts	Where do you live? I think that is WAY high for anesthesia. What amount of time are we talking about? That is more than I paid for anes. for my whole surgery. If you live anywhere near FLA or have good cheap flights you should check out Aspen after Surgery dot com. They do a specialize ultrasound treatment for CC that is non surgical! I bet it would be cheaper even if you have to travel there and NO more surgery. It worked for me. go to their website and see what you think. Good luck!!

11-15-2009, 12:20 PM	#13
Demitra Still smiling :) Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 143 Thanks: 44 Thanked 38 Times in 37 Posts	One of the questions I asked at my consult was what is covered in the event of a complication. My surgeon said everything.. Very nonchalant.. We will take care of you ..is what he said. I learned later that MSP ( medical services plan) covers the cost of complications. I went back in the day of my surgery for the hematoma- Got put out again etc etc.. And I paid not one cent. __________________ breast augmentation Date : Nov.2/09 Pre-breast augmentation 34A Post -Currently 34 small D :):) 375ccL / 400ccR Smooth Round Mentor Cohesive Gel Partially under the muscle 132lbs, 5'5" Mama to 4 kidlets.. Breastfed 8 years & loved every minute!

11-15-2009, 02:19 PM	#14
Horizon41 Hope Revision Holds Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,662 Thanks: 288 Thanked 954 Times in 911 Posts	all ps are different I have to have a pocket revision in Jan and I am paying surgery center fees. __________________ Mother of 3 sons all nursed over a year Mentor 500cc's HP 6/29/09 5'10 125lbs BWD 12.5 ribcage 27 Diagnosed with CC of my right on 8/5/09 cleared of CC on 11/9/09 Pocket Revision on 1/25/10 on Left for Bottoming out

11-15-2009, 02:34 PM	#15
amermaidseyez Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: long island, new york Posts: 655 Thanks: 113 Thanked 233 Times in 222 Posts	When i booked my surgery, one of the papers i signed was a "contract" for what the fee would be if additional surgery is needed within the first year after my original surgery. It is a $1200. fee for anest. only __________________ Pre breast augmentation- a very small 36B Post breast augmentation- 36D Natrelle 390 cc's textured saline unders areola incision

11-15-2009, 03:18 PM	#16
Genie 1000cc YAY! Thanks to all my JBI sisters for support! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Statesboro, GA Posts: 541 Thanks: 31 Thanked 287 Times in 209 Posts	Yes I think this is normal. I'm having a re-do in Jan & it's gonna cost $2500. Dr doesn't charge a fee is another surgery is done within a year but he does charge for anesthesia, surgical supplies, and the implants. Anesthesia is an expensive thing. Would you ever consider having twilight anesthesia instead of general? I think it's a good bit cheaper. __________________ 1st breast augmentation & BL: 620cc HP, smooth, round, saline, Mentor implants on March 27, 2009 Saggy, small 36D before-VERY perky 36DDD/F after 1 syringe of Juvederm Ultra Plus on September 8, 2009 to upper & lower lip 2nd breast augmentation: 1000cc Mod+, smooth, round, saline Mentor implants on January 22, 2010 So far I'm a 36 H!

11-15-2009, 04:16 PM	#17
bb8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chicago, illinois Posts: 116 Thanks: 37 Thanked 40 Times in 35 Posts	Based on everyone's reply I guess it is normal to pay for the surgery center fees but that doesn't mean you can't approach him and ask if you could work out a deal. The older I get the more I realize it doesn't hurt to ask. All he can say is sorry, no. Think through what you want to say beforehand. Don't get his defenses up but ask him why the pocket revision is needed. Tell him you're concerned about the $1200 fee and wanted to know if he can help you out in any way. I need to talk to my surgeon about something I'm not happy about and am bringing my husband for next week's follow up. He's a business man and I know it will help to have him there. Is there anyone you could bring with you? __________________ 5'8, 123lbs pre breast augmentation small 34A post breast augmentation 34C 300cc Mentor Mod+ Silicone Unders, crease incision- Nov. 5, 2009

11-15-2009, 06:47 PM	#18
beckybee Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,074 Thanks: 538 Thanked 564 Times in 450 Posts	I know it sounds like a lot to you, and it is a lot for me also, but I think it's considered decent and fair practice by a PS to waive their fees only for a redo. Technically, they don't have to unless it's their error and even then they can try to get away with saying it's not. Based on my experience, this is a good case scenario (sounds ridiculous I know). I agree with the part about asking for a reduction. You could also ask him to finance it no/low interest while you pay it back. It's been done. Unfortunately, I couldn't even get my complications diagnosed and ended up going with a second PS to get them diagnosed and fixed. Now, that was more money!! __________________ 5'3" 105-110 lbs 27" ribcage 1st breast augmentation: March 2008 300 cc Natrelle HP Silicone Unders Pre breast augmentation 32A (saggy from breastfeeding...went up 3-4 cup sizes!) Post breast augmentation full 32C/30D 2nd breast augmentation: August 2008 (with my new & improved & ethical PS!) Revision due to CC of right breast and bottoming out & malposition of left breast Capsulectomy on right breast, internal sutures & lift on left breast, exchange of implants 350 cc Mentor Mod Plus Silicone Unders Post breast augmentation: So far, so good and hoping it stays that way! I have a bunch of complication & redo photos posted in 3 albums. Just friend request me and I will gladly accept! www.justbreastimplants.com/Shamoun/

11-18-2009, 12:45 PM	#19
smallboobs Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 233 Thanks: 142 Thanked 103 Times in 72 Posts	I paid 1300 for my revision (anest . & for the OR) the only time I didn't pay was for my emergency hematoma, so it's normal that you have to pay for revisions unfortenatly. But you should def ask if there is any way that he could reduce the price. __________________ 5'5, 100lbs, '27 ribcage Pre-breast augmentation: 32A Post breast augmentation: 32DD 350cc mods + silicone Surgery Date: May 8, 2009 Revision right breast due to Hematoma: May 28,2009 Redo to High Profiles: May 28, 2010

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