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Can cancer be detected when you have implants

Old 08-30-2012, 12:59 PM
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Can cancer be detected when you have implants

A friend of mine was diagnosed with breast cancer last week. She explained how she first found a lump and the the mammogram etc. This raised concern with me. Does implants make it harder or easier to detect lump?
She is also considering gettin implants, but worried that she will not detect further lumps.

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With mammograms, it can be hard to detect masses if there are implants to begin with. The implant takes up space, and the mammograms cannot see THROUGH the implant, so either way (over or under) it's going to potentially interfere. However, if it's under, that would conceivably have LESS of an impact.

This was the response from a Radiologist friend of mine when I asked about breast cancer detection and implants (I was curious about unders vs overs).
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It will be harder to detect with mammograms with implants regardless but to my knowledge with fully under muscle implants the muscle is completely over the implant which is basically a barrier between your original breast tissue and your implants. Thats why its easier to detect problems on mammograms with sub muscular. If your friend is considering getting implants I would tell her to talk to a couple different specialists and consider getting them completely under the muscle. Thats a concerning case though bc I wouldn't want her to do anything that may make it harder to detect lumps. When My own mom had her implants done 10 years ago she had hers put over the muscle and her doctor found a little lump on one side and just removed it she had it tested and it wasn't cancerous but I would hope if thats your concern the doctor will notify you if he found anything suspicious during the surgery and hopefully they would just remove it to get tested too.

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Everyone I know who has ever had breast cancer always found a lump on their own. No one I know of ever had cancer detected by a mammogram. Not to say that mamms don't find cancers, but to say that all the women I know who have found lumps and cancers have always found them on their own because they can feel the lumps or they hurt.

I've always heard that overs make it more difficult and unders make it a little easier to find as far as using mammograms are concerned.

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You are supposed to get a baseline with a Mammogram 1 year post-op for a baseline and continue to get them every few years as regular check-ups. EVEN if you are under then normal age of 40- 45 that usually has to start getting the check-ups. Also, I read that 2 years post-op you can get a CT or MRI scan to check that way, and continue with those every few years. The irony here is that they more paranoid you are about having cancer, the more susceptible to the harmful rays you are. If it is in your family like it is in mine, prepare yourself for that. She may want to make sure it is completely removed and find healthier lifestyles before considering a BA... Just do mammograms, get blood work if you are worried maybe that can catch it. Generally just do everything you can to be healthy, cancer can get anyone at any age for no reason. I'd rather die from not knowing I had breast cancer cuz my implant hid it than to die from breast cancer anyways after being afraid to get implants and miss out on timeless experiences. That's just mee.

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I've had mammograms since my BA and personally spoken to the radiologist prior to getting my implants last year. The doctor, who reads images, says the digital sensitivity and the techniques to position and displace the mplant have proven to be effective. I asked him if they have "missed" early detection of masses and he said they never find anything "big" that was missed from a previous imaging. Of course, women with implants do get cancer but as long as they are getting regular mammograms, they can catch it in time.

Unlike the previous poster, all of the women I know with breast cancer have discovered their cancer as a result of mammography, including my SIL who had a lumpectomy four years ago and is fully recovered. She also had implants at the time.

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After my first baby I developed a lump on my left breast. I believe it was from my milk because often my milk would back up causing burning and lots of lumps. It was such hard time for me..
I got an ultrasound and they werent concerned as they said its probably from the milk.
Second baby comes around lump still there so my gyno suggested to check it out after my baby was born. I had an ultrasound and a mammoram done and both detected no cancer cells thank God! The said that it's a bening (spell?). That was all done in April and my surgery was in July. I asked the people that did my ultrasound and mammogram if they will be able to continue to check on me after my BA and they said yes implants wont get in the way.
So here I am 2 months post op and i can stil feel my lump but it seem like it has gotten smaller. So in my case the implants are not getting in the way but i do remember right out of surgery my lump was very easy to feel.
Also, they told me if i wish i can have the lump drained even if i have implants. They said its a lil hard to do but it can be done. They just need to be super careful to not rupture the implant..!
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I was heard about some concern with doing mammogram and the implant rupturing from the procedure. I have heard that MRI's are preffered for screening procedures to prevent this. I did look at the mentor manual regarding the issue and they say regular mammograms are fine:

"Mammography – Patients should be instructed to undergo routine mammography exams as per their primary care physician’s recommendations. The importance of having these exams should be emphasized. Patients should be instructed to inform their mammographers about the presence, type, and placement of their implants. Patients should request a diagnostic mammography, rather than a screening mammography, because more pictures are taken with diagnostic mammography. Breast implants may complicate the interpretation of mammographic images by obscuring underlying breast tissue and/or by compressing overlying tissue. Accredited mammography centers, technicians with experience in imaging patients with breast implants, and use of displacement techniques are needed to adequately visualize breast tissue in the implanted breast. The current recommendations for preoperative/screening mammograms are no different for women with breast implants than for those women without implants. Presurgical mammography with a mammogram following the procedure may be performed to establish a baseline for routine future mammography in augmentation patients." This is from the mentor implant manual for cohesive gel implants.

http://www.mentorwwllc.com/Documents/gel-PIDS.pdf

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It CAN be detected but implants make it much harder to be detected especially over the muscle.
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one of the reasons why I waited so long to get implants was because of the cancer detection. I still am not comfortable with the idea of how implants can make it harder to detect cancer , however I really want new boobs now
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one of the reasons why I waited so long to get implants was because of the cancer detection. I still am not comfortable with the idea of how implants can make it harder to detect cancer , however I really want new boobs now
I am sorry to hear this, I hope you finally get the boobs that you have been waiting for!

I know that my grama had Breast cancer for about 25 years of her life. It started out that she had found a lump herself and did not tell anyone for a whole year. When she finally did, they said it was BC. She did a lot of experimental treatments, a lot of which are still used today it general practice which is pretty cool. Unfortunately, after it had gone and came back about 6 times, her body had enough and we lost her. Now, this makes me a moderate risk level for getting it myself. She didn't find it through a mammogram, but it was the confirmation that something was there. I was too young at the time to be able to ask her what it looked like, hell.. I didn't even know she was sick until her funeral.. so I don't know whats normal and what isn't.

Does anyone know what exactly are the signs of BC, other than a lump? I am getting nervous of putting down my down-payment before I get a mammogram pre-op just to make sure everything it okay. My sebaceous glands are always pretty active cuz I work hard and sweat a lot, so I am kind of worried.. but I am generally a paranoid person. It would definitly be my worst fear to go through all this only to find I can't go thru with surgery because I am ill. It would be like sinking from the highest high down to the furthest low.

I felt a little lump to be honest, white stuff comes out, sometimes a clear liquid.. it looks like a glorified pimple except its super sensitive and when I sweat, that puppies stings like someone is pouring vinegar on me. It's one spot, I can feel like a toob that goes down into my boob more and if I pull on my skin and just follow my finger lightly along the nipple to the surface thats when all the stuff comes out... I don't know what to do.. been there for about 4 months now, I was hoping it would just go away. I have no kids, never been preggo to my knowledge. Can't see how it would be a milk duct like ProudMommy.

Can anyone ease my worries? Or should I go to ER sooner than later? KZN, what did your friends lump look like if you could best describe it?
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...I felt a little lump to be honest, white stuff comes out, sometimes a clear liquid.. it looks like a glorified pimple except its super sensitive and when I sweat, that puppies stings like someone is pouring vinegar on me. It's one spot, I can feel like a toob that goes down into my boob more and if I pull on my skin and just follow my finger lightly along the nipple to the surface thats when all the stuff comes out... I don't know what to do.. been there for about 4 months now, I was hoping it would just go away. I have no kids, never been preggo to my knowledge. Can't see how it would be a milk duct like ProudMommy.

Can anyone ease my worries? Or should I go to ER sooner than later? KZN, what did your friends lump look like if you could best describe it?
Eclipse, whatever the reason is for the symptoms that you are experiencing, I urge you to please make an appointment to see your doctor. No need to go to the ER (you have had this for 4 months), but you need to see your family doctor without any further waiting.

In as far as mammograms are concerned, women with implants need to go to facilities that are familiar with implants. Make certain that you tell them when you are making your appointment that you have implants since you will require more "x-ray images" than someone who doesn't have implants, and there are various techniques that the technician will have to employ in order to get good images of the breast tissue (displacement techniques).

If you are concerned at all about this, you could speak to a technician prior to receiving your implants. If they tell you that they will have difficulty viewing everything if you have 1,600 cc's, then you may want to hold back a bit on that amount. Anyway, call your local clinic and speak to them about this.

First though, call your doctor and make an appointment to see him/her re your current problem.

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After my first baby I developed a lump on my left breast. I believe it was from my milk because often my milk would back up causing burning and lots of lumps. It was such hard time for me..
I got an ultrasound and they werent concerned as they said its probably from the milk.
Second baby comes around lump still there so my gyno suggested to check it out after my baby was born. I had an ultrasound and a mammoram done and both detected no cancer cells thank God! The said that it's a bening (spell?). That was all done in April and my surgery was in July. I asked the people that did my ultrasound and mammogram if they will be able to continue to check on me after my BA and they said yes implants wont get in the way.
So here I am 2 months post op and i can stil feel my lump but it seem like it has gotten smaller. So in my case the implants are not getting in the way but i do remember right out of surgery my lump was very easy to feel.
Also, they told me if i wish i can have the lump drained even if i have implants. They said its a lil hard to do but it can be done. They just need to be super careful to not rupture the implant..!
Im really sorry to hear you had to deal with all that stress! I was just wondering did they suggest draining it when you had the BA. Or did you have your PS check it out when you got your BA done? I was just curious if the could have removed it? I hope everything stays positive. my mother had the same problem and when she got her boobs done the PS removed it so they could test it and it turned out to be fine. XO
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Studies indicate that breast cancer is found at the same times in patients with breast implants and patients without breast implants. So this indicates that implants do not interfere with detection rates. Also studies show no difference in survival rate as well. Most surgeons recommended unders for the fact of better screening with mammograms as mammograms are important in early detection.
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I am sorry to hear this, I hope you finally get the boobs that you have been waiting for!

I know that my grama had Breast cancer for about 25 years of her life. It started out that she had found a lump herself and did not tell anyone for a whole year. When she finally did, they said it was BC. She did a lot of experimental treatments, a lot of which are still used today it general practice which is pretty cool. Unfortunately, after it had gone and came back about 6 times, her body had enough and we lost her. Now, this makes me a moderate risk level for getting it myself. She didn't find it through a mammogram, but it was the confirmation that something was there. I was too young at the time to be able to ask her what it looked like, hell.. I didn't even know she was sick until her funeral.. so I don't know whats normal and what isn't.

Does anyone know what exactly are the signs of BC, other than a lump? I am getting nervous of putting down my down-payment before I get a mammogram pre-op just to make sure everything it okay. My sebaceous glands are always pretty active cuz I work hard and sweat a lot, so I am kind of worried.. but I am generally a paranoid person. It would definitly be my worst fear to go through all this only to find I can't go thru with surgery because I am ill. It would be like sinking from the highest high down to the furthest low.

I felt a little lump to be honest, white stuff comes out, sometimes a clear liquid.. it looks like a glorified pimple except its super sensitive and when I sweat, that puppies stings like someone is pouring vinegar on me. It's one spot, I can feel like a toob that goes down into my boob more and if I pull on my skin and just follow my finger lightly along the nipple to the surface thats when all the stuff comes out... I don't know what to do.. been there for about 4 months now, I was hoping it would just go away. I have no kids, never been preggo to my knowledge. Can't see how it would be a milk duct like ProudMommy.

Can anyone ease my worries? Or should I go to ER sooner than later? KZN, what did your friends lump look like if you could best describe it?
You should go get this checked out. No one should ignore lumps, especially if they ooze any substance. And especially if you have a family history. It's more likely to not be cancerous but it's not worth your life to just ignore it.
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